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==General Information==
 
==General Information==
  
===[[Is this site a joke?]]===
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===Is this site a joke?===
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This site is not a joke. We are actively promoting the Flat Earth Movement worldwide. There are, admittedly, several non-serious flat earth posters, but they are fairly easy to identify.
  
===[[Terminology|What do all of these acronyms mean?]]===
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===What do all of these acronyms mean?===
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Here is a link to flat earth [[Terminology]]!
  
===[[Experimental Evidence|What evidence do you have?]]===
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===What evidence do you have?===
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The evidence for a flat earth is derived from many different facets of science and philosophy.  The simplest is by relying on ones own senses to discern the true nature of the world around us.  The world looks flat, the bottoms of clouds are flat, the movement of the sun; these are all examples of your senses telling you that we do not live on a spherical heliocentric world.  This is using what's called an [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Empiricism empirical] approach, or an approach that relies on information from your senses. Alternatively, when using Descartes' method of [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartesian_doubt Cartesian doubt] to skeptically view the world around us, one quickly finds that the notion of a spherical world is the theory which has the burden of proof and not flat earth theory.
  
===[[Is flat earth theory connected to a religion?]]===
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Perhaps the best example of flat earth proof is the [[Bedford Level Experiment]].  In short, this was an experiment preformed many times on a six-mile stretch of water that proved the surface of the water to be flat.  It did not conform to the curvature of the earth that round earth proponents teach.
  
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Many other [[Experimental Evidence|experiments demonstrating the lack of curvature]] in the earth may be found in ''[[Earth Not a Globe]]'', by [[Samuel Rowbotham]].
  
===[[People have been into space. How have they not discovered that the earth is flat?]]===
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===Is flat earth theory connected to a religion?===
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Flat earth theory is neither officially nor unofficially associated with any religion.  Throughout the ages various religious institutions have championed a flat earth model for the world. Unfortunately this leaves us with the vestigial thought that flat earth theory and religions are symbiotic.  They are not, even though many religions today, both mainstream and otherwise, still teach its followers that the world is flat.  While they are not incorrect, believing in a flat earth isn't contingent upon believing in a deity or being a part of any religion.
  
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There is however a religious movement founded by one of our theorists John Davis known as neozeteticism.
  
===[[There are many pictures on the internet and in other media depicting the earth as being round. Why do these not disprove flat earth theory?]]===
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===People have been into space. How have they not discovered that the earth is flat?===
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The most commonly accepted explanation of this is that the space agencies of the world are involved in a [[The Conspiracy|conspiracy]] faking space travel and exploration. This likely began during the Cold War's 'Space Race', in which the U.S.S.R and USA were obsessed with beating each other into space to the point that each faked their accomplishments in an attempt to keep pace with the other's supposed achievements. Since the end of the Cold War, however, the conspiracy is most likely [[motive of the Conspiracy|motivated]] by greed rather than political gains, and using only some of their funding to continue to fake space travel saves a lot of money to embezzle for themselves.
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In light of the above, please note that we are not suggesting that space agencies are aware that the earth is flat and actively covering the fact up. They depict the earth as being round simply because that is what they expect it to be.
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===There are many pictures on the internet and in other media depicting the earth as being round. Why do these not disprove flat earth theory?===
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In general, we at the Flat Earth Society do not lend much credibility to photographic evidence.  It is too easily manipulated and altered.  Many of the videos posted here to "prove a round earth" by showing curvature will show no curvature or even convex curvature at parts.  The sources are so inaccurate it's difficult to build an argument on them in either case.  Furthermore, barrel distortion and other quirks of modern cameras will cause a picture to distort with little or no apparent altercation; especially without references within the picture.  Photographs are also prone to distortion when taken through the bent glass of a pressurized cabin as well as atmospheric conditions on the outside.  With this litany of problems, it's easy to see why photographic evidence is not to be trusted.
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It's also worth noting that if a person were to look down at the earth from high above, they would expect to see a circular shape where the sun's spotlight was shining.  This explains why high altitude photographs are generally curved to produce the illusion of a round horizon.
  
 
==Geography and Related Phenomena==
 
==Geography and Related Phenomena==
  
===[[What does the earth look like?]]===
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===What does the earth look like?===
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As seen in the diagrams above, the earth is in the form of a disk with the North Pole in the center and Antarctica as a wall around the edge. This is the generally accepted model among members of the society. In this model, circumnavigation is performed by moving in a great circle around the North Pole.
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The earth is surrounded on all sides by an ice wall that holds the oceans back. This ice wall is what explorers have named Antarctica. Beyond the ice wall is a topic of great interest to the Flat Earth Society. To our knowledge, no one has been very far past the ice wall and returned to tell of their journey. What we do know is that it encircles the earth and serves to hold in our oceans and helps protect us from whatever lies beyond.
  
===[[How do you explain day/night cycles and seasons?]]===
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Here is picture of a proposed, but certainly not definitive, flat earth.
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<BR />[[File:Map.png|alt=Flat Earth map]]
  
===[[How is there a magnetic field? Magnets can't be unipolar]]===
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===How do you explain day/night cycles and seasons?===
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Day and night cycles are easily explained on a flat earth.  The sun moves in circles around the North Pole.  When it is over your head, it's day.  When it's not, it's night.  The sun acts like a spotlight and shines downward as it moves.  The picture below illustrates how the sun moves and also how seasons work on a flat earth. <BR />
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[[File:Seasons.png|alt=Explanation of the seasons in Flat Earth Theory]]
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<BR />When the sun is further away from the North Pole, it's winter in the northern hemiplane (or hemisphere) and summer in the south.  A more simplistic picture can be found below.
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<BR />[[File:FlatEarthErasmus.png|alt=Seasons in Flat Earth Theory]]
  
===[[As a passenger on an aircraft, how is it I can see the curvature of the earth?]]===
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===How is there a magnetic field? Magnets can't be unipolar===
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While it's true that unipolar magnets can't exist, this isn't a problem for the Flat Earth. This is because ring magnets, which are shaped like (you guessed it!) a flat disk, are capable of having radial magnetization. In a radial magnet, one magnetic pole is at the center and other other is at all points on the edge of the magnet. A magnet like this can be found in loudspeakers, and perfectly replicates what is found on the Earth.
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===As a passenger on an aircraft, how is it I can see the curvature of the earth?===
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Quite simply you cannot. It is widely stated you would need to be at a height of at least 40,000 ft to get even a hint of curvature if earth were round. Commercial aircraft are not allowed to fly this high. They are only allowed to fly just under this altitude. 36,000ft might be typical.
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In addition, the windows on commercial aircraft are small and heavily curved. Even if they flew high enough for a person to see curvature, it would still not be visible to passengers.
  
 
==Physics and Cosmology==
 
==Physics and Cosmology==
  
===[[Why doesn't gravity pull the earth into a spherical shape?]]===
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===Why doesn't gravity pull the earth into a spherical shape?===
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The earth isn't pulled into a sphere because the force known as gravity doesn't exist or at least exists in a greatly diminished form than is commonly taught.  The earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared (or 9.8 meters per second squared).  This constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity.  Imagine sitting in a car that never stops speeding up.  You will be forever pushed into your seat.  The earth works much the same way.  It is constantly accelerating upwards being pushed by a [[UA|universal accelerator]] (UA) known as dark energy or aetheric wind.
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There are also other theories of flat earth thought that maintain that the earth sits on an infinite plane, with the sun moving overhead.  Gravity works much like it does in a round-earth model, and the earth will never form into a sphere because the plane is endless.
  
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===Objects cannot exceed the speed of light. Doesn't this mean that the Earth can't accelerate forever?===
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Due to special relativity, this is not the case. At this point, many readers will question the validity of any answer which uses advanced, intimidating-sounding physics terms to explain a position. However, it is true. The relevant equation is v/c = tanh (at/c). One will find that in this equation, tanh(at/c) can never exceed or equal 1. This means that velocity can never reach the speed of light, regardless of how long one accelerates for and the rate of the acceleration.
  
===[[Objects cannot exceed the speed of light. Doesn't this mean that the Earth can't accelerate forever?]]===
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The reason for this is... complicated, to say the least. This FAQ is not the place to be learning about special relativity.

Revision as of 20:12, 25 December 2013

Welcome to the Flat Earth Society, and thank you for taking the time to go through this FAQ. It was created in light of the realization that for someone with a "round earth" background, the flat earth theory would appear, at first glance, to have some glaring holes.

This thread is designed to answer some of the questions that many round earthers raise when they first arrive. Please check this page before making your first threads in the forums, as it may contain the answers to the questions on your mind.

Some of the questions here have multiple answers due to differing views of flat earth theory among some of our members.

General Information

Is this site a joke?

This site is not a joke. We are actively promoting the Flat Earth Movement worldwide. There are, admittedly, several non-serious flat earth posters, but they are fairly easy to identify.

What do all of these acronyms mean?

Here is a link to flat earth Terminology!

What evidence do you have?

The evidence for a flat earth is derived from many different facets of science and philosophy. The simplest is by relying on ones own senses to discern the true nature of the world around us. The world looks flat, the bottoms of clouds are flat, the movement of the sun; these are all examples of your senses telling you that we do not live on a spherical heliocentric world. This is using what's called an empirical approach, or an approach that relies on information from your senses. Alternatively, when using Descartes' method of Cartesian doubt to skeptically view the world around us, one quickly finds that the notion of a spherical world is the theory which has the burden of proof and not flat earth theory.

Perhaps the best example of flat earth proof is the Bedford Level Experiment. In short, this was an experiment preformed many times on a six-mile stretch of water that proved the surface of the water to be flat. It did not conform to the curvature of the earth that round earth proponents teach.

Many other experiments demonstrating the lack of curvature in the earth may be found in Earth Not a Globe, by Samuel Rowbotham.

Is flat earth theory connected to a religion?

Flat earth theory is neither officially nor unofficially associated with any religion. Throughout the ages various religious institutions have championed a flat earth model for the world. Unfortunately this leaves us with the vestigial thought that flat earth theory and religions are symbiotic. They are not, even though many religions today, both mainstream and otherwise, still teach its followers that the world is flat. While they are not incorrect, believing in a flat earth isn't contingent upon believing in a deity or being a part of any religion.

There is however a religious movement founded by one of our theorists John Davis known as neozeteticism.

People have been into space. How have they not discovered that the earth is flat?

The most commonly accepted explanation of this is that the space agencies of the world are involved in a conspiracy faking space travel and exploration. This likely began during the Cold War's 'Space Race', in which the U.S.S.R and USA were obsessed with beating each other into space to the point that each faked their accomplishments in an attempt to keep pace with the other's supposed achievements. Since the end of the Cold War, however, the conspiracy is most likely motivated by greed rather than political gains, and using only some of their funding to continue to fake space travel saves a lot of money to embezzle for themselves.

In light of the above, please note that we are not suggesting that space agencies are aware that the earth is flat and actively covering the fact up. They depict the earth as being round simply because that is what they expect it to be.

There are many pictures on the internet and in other media depicting the earth as being round. Why do these not disprove flat earth theory?

In general, we at the Flat Earth Society do not lend much credibility to photographic evidence. It is too easily manipulated and altered. Many of the videos posted here to "prove a round earth" by showing curvature will show no curvature or even convex curvature at parts. The sources are so inaccurate it's difficult to build an argument on them in either case. Furthermore, barrel distortion and other quirks of modern cameras will cause a picture to distort with little or no apparent altercation; especially without references within the picture. Photographs are also prone to distortion when taken through the bent glass of a pressurized cabin as well as atmospheric conditions on the outside. With this litany of problems, it's easy to see why photographic evidence is not to be trusted.

It's also worth noting that if a person were to look down at the earth from high above, they would expect to see a circular shape where the sun's spotlight was shining. This explains why high altitude photographs are generally curved to produce the illusion of a round horizon.

Geography and Related Phenomena

What does the earth look like?

As seen in the diagrams above, the earth is in the form of a disk with the North Pole in the center and Antarctica as a wall around the edge. This is the generally accepted model among members of the society. In this model, circumnavigation is performed by moving in a great circle around the North Pole.

The earth is surrounded on all sides by an ice wall that holds the oceans back. This ice wall is what explorers have named Antarctica. Beyond the ice wall is a topic of great interest to the Flat Earth Society. To our knowledge, no one has been very far past the ice wall and returned to tell of their journey. What we do know is that it encircles the earth and serves to hold in our oceans and helps protect us from whatever lies beyond.

Here is picture of a proposed, but certainly not definitive, flat earth.
Flat Earth map

How do you explain day/night cycles and seasons?

Day and night cycles are easily explained on a flat earth. The sun moves in circles around the North Pole. When it is over your head, it's day. When it's not, it's night. The sun acts like a spotlight and shines downward as it moves. The picture below illustrates how the sun moves and also how seasons work on a flat earth.
Explanation of the seasons in Flat Earth Theory
When the sun is further away from the North Pole, it's winter in the northern hemiplane (or hemisphere) and summer in the south. A more simplistic picture can be found below.
Seasons in Flat Earth Theory

How is there a magnetic field? Magnets can't be unipolar

While it's true that unipolar magnets can't exist, this isn't a problem for the Flat Earth. This is because ring magnets, which are shaped like (you guessed it!) a flat disk, are capable of having radial magnetization. In a radial magnet, one magnetic pole is at the center and other other is at all points on the edge of the magnet. A magnet like this can be found in loudspeakers, and perfectly replicates what is found on the Earth.

As a passenger on an aircraft, how is it I can see the curvature of the earth?

Quite simply you cannot. It is widely stated you would need to be at a height of at least 40,000 ft to get even a hint of curvature if earth were round. Commercial aircraft are not allowed to fly this high. They are only allowed to fly just under this altitude. 36,000ft might be typical. In addition, the windows on commercial aircraft are small and heavily curved. Even if they flew high enough for a person to see curvature, it would still not be visible to passengers.

Physics and Cosmology

Why doesn't gravity pull the earth into a spherical shape?

The earth isn't pulled into a sphere because the force known as gravity doesn't exist or at least exists in a greatly diminished form than is commonly taught. The earth is constantly accelerating up at a rate of 32 feet per second squared (or 9.8 meters per second squared). This constant acceleration causes what you think of as gravity. Imagine sitting in a car that never stops speeding up. You will be forever pushed into your seat. The earth works much the same way. It is constantly accelerating upwards being pushed by a universal accelerator (UA) known as dark energy or aetheric wind.

There are also other theories of flat earth thought that maintain that the earth sits on an infinite plane, with the sun moving overhead. Gravity works much like it does in a round-earth model, and the earth will never form into a sphere because the plane is endless.

Objects cannot exceed the speed of light. Doesn't this mean that the Earth can't accelerate forever?

Due to special relativity, this is not the case. At this point, many readers will question the validity of any answer which uses advanced, intimidating-sounding physics terms to explain a position. However, it is true. The relevant equation is v/c = tanh (at/c). One will find that in this equation, tanh(at/c) can never exceed or equal 1. This means that velocity can never reach the speed of light, regardless of how long one accelerates for and the rate of the acceleration.

The reason for this is... complicated, to say the least. This FAQ is not the place to be learning about special relativity.