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− | "The Earth is spinning so all people living at the equator are apparently moving at 464 m/s relatively to what seems like a | + | "The Earth is spinning so all people living at the equator are apparently moving at 464 m/s relatively to what seems like a 'better inertial frame'. By the special relativistic time dilation, this should slow their time by one part per trillion. That would be a 100 larger relative effect than the accuracy you may achieve with state-of-the-art atomic clocks. Has someone measured this effect that should be measurable?" |
The answer is actually funny (especially if you say more than just the word "No"). Let me just repost mine. | The answer is actually funny (especially if you say more than just the word "No"). Let me just repost mine. |
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Time Dilation by Latitude refers to Albert Einstein's prediction that clocks would tick slower at the equator than at the poles.
From The Fascinating Life and Theory of Albert Einstein:
“ In Einstein's original paper on the Special Theory of Relativity, "On the Electrodynamics of Moving Bodies", he mentioned a thought experiment using two identical clocks. One clock was placed on the equator and the other at one pole of the Earth. The clock on the equator had a faster speed then that at the pole due to the rotation of the Earth. He claimed that the clock on the equator would run slower than the one at the pole. ”
Precision clocks were not yet advanced enough to measure the effect at the time, but since the invention and and advancement of atomic clocks there have been efforts to use these new technologies to measure and demonstrate this effect.
University of Maryland
https://umdgrb.umd.edu/~goodman/review/ThemeGroup2_Exp.ppt
In 2005 the University of Maryland found that there was no difference in clock time with Atomic Clocks:
Clock Transport to Thule
A University of Maryland at College Park slideshow shows the following:
University of Adelaide
The equivalence principle as a stepping stone from special to general relativity: A Socratic dialog
S. P. Drake
School of Chemistry and Physics
Professor Drake at the University of Adelaide explains that there is no time dilation between different latitudes. Professor Drake then proceeds to provide an explanation for the lack of time dilation. The paper is written in the form of Socratic dialog.
“ Kim: Your lectures on special relativity fascinated me, and when I got home I wondered if I could construct a simple experiment to prove or disprove time dilation, the aspect of special relativity that interests me the most. While lying in bed before dozing off, I realized that a clock placed at the equator should run slower than a clock placed at the pole. So I did a little calculation and found that special relativity predicts that a clock on the equator runs slower by about 100 ns per day with respect to a clock at the pole. Although this effect is not large, it is certainly measurable with modern atomic clocks. So I went onto the internet to see if I could find any reference to such an experiment and to my surprise I couldn’t.
I was starting to get so frustrated that I couldn’t sleep. I glanced at the clock - 3 am. I thought to myself “How accurate is my clock?” I should check it against internet time. Then it occurred to me that the world timing standard organizations must mention a latitude effect on local clock accuracies. So I went onto the internet again and checked The Bureau International des Poids et Mesures2 because the Bureau calculates the international atomic time from atomic clocks located in more than 30 countries around the world. I was sure that I must find something about the latitude effect on their web site. After spending hours trawling their site and then other sites on the web, I came up with nothing. There was a discussion of the relativistic effect of placing clocks at high altitudes, but nothing about latitude. In my despair I gave up and collapsed into a fitful sleep.
I came to see you today in the hope that you could cure my insomnia.
Sam: You are in good company in thinking that clocks at the equator and the pole should tick at different rates. Einstein himself predicted as much in his famous 1905 paper on the special theory of relativity.3 Luckily for physics the effect was not measurable with the instruments of the day because Einstein’s prediction would have failed to match experiment.
Let us return to your findings:
- According to the special theory of relativity a clock located at the equator should run slower than one at the pole and
- Empirically, all clocks located at sea-level on the Earth’s surface tick at the same rate, regardless of latitude. ”
Explanation
In order to explain the lack of this effect on a rotating Earth, Professor Drake explains that clocks tick the same rate by virtue of Einstein's Equivalence Principle:
“ Sam: Suppose you are floating in a room with no windows or doors. All of a sudden, you feel a force that throws you against the wall. If there were two possible forces, gravitational and centrifugal, are you able to determine which force you are feeling?
...The idea that you can’t know if the force is a uniform gravitational force or a combination of uniform forces, is called the equivalence principle. What does it tell you about clocks on the surface of the Earth? ”
Luboš Motl
Czech theoretical physicist Luboš Motl (bio) also uses the Equivalence Principle to cancel out the effect. From his blog:
https://motls.blogspot.com/2014/07/is-time-going-slowly-near-equator.html?m=1 (Archive)
“ John Rennie – who is going to jump above me at Physics Stack Exchange in a few months unless I will find motivation to prevent him from doing so – has asked a very nice question:
"The Earth is spinning so all people living at the equator are apparently moving at 464 m/s relatively to what seems like a 'better inertial frame'. By the special relativistic time dilation, this should slow their time by one part per trillion. That would be a 100 larger relative effect than the accuracy you may achieve with state-of-the-art atomic clocks. Has someone measured this effect that should be measurable?"
The answer is actually funny (especially if you say more than just the word "No"). Let me just repost mine.
The difference would indeed be measurable with state-of-the-art atomic clocks but it's not there: it cancels. The reasons actually boil down to the very first thought experiments that Einstein went through when he realized the importance of the equivalence principle for general relativity
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Every argument showing the exact cancellation of the special relativistic effect must use the equivalence principle at one point or another; any argument avoiding this principle – or anything else from general relativity – is guaranteed to be incorrect because separately (without gravity and its effects), the special relativistic effect is certainly there. ”
Addendum
The above authors uses the Equivalence Principle to explain why clocks all tick at the same rate across the surface of the Earth. The Equivalence Principle says that effects are indistinguishable from an Earth which is accelerating upwards.
https://slideplayer.com/slide/8138482/
The argument of using an upwardly accelerating earth as an explanation for why clocks tick at the same rate is one which we can only agree with. Curiously, this effect not only applies to gravity, but to the rotational motion of the Earth as well. Time dilates at different altitudes in agreement with an upwardly accelerating Earth[1], but not at different latitudes as might be suggested by a rotating Round Earth.
It has been argued that the Equivalence Principle is only a local effect, yet we find university explanations which utilize it as a worldwide effect to explain why time dilation does not occur at different latitudes due to the different longitudinal speeds of the Earth. Once more it dawns upon the thinking man that explanations are needed when experiment does not produce its expected heliocentric result.
See Also
- Evidence for Universal Acceleration: Gravitational Time Dilation - The Equivalence Principle predicts that time dilates at different altitudes.
- Pieces of Einstein’s 1905 Puzzle - Physics Today article on the failure to find time dilation at different latitudes. Further discussion of the Equivalence Principle explanation.